BASS Threatens to Leave Without Contract By End of Month
Animal shelter president said they've been waiting too long for contract from borough.
Bloomingdale Regional Animal Shelter Society (BASS) President Ellen Ribitzki said BASS was let down once again at Tuesday's Bloomingdale Council meeting as the council still did not award a bid for animal shelter services. But Borough Attorney Mark Semeraro said it was because he is still concerned about some of the language in the sole proposal submitted to the borough by BASS.
"For the most part, it is a conforming proposal," Semeraro said, adding that there are a few areas he wanted to speak with councilmembers about in closed session.
After the meeting, Semeraro said since the council decided to enter into competitive contracting for the second round of bidding in September, the council is able to negotiate terms of the contract with the bidder. In the first round of bidding this summer, two bidders submitted proposals, but Semeraro said Tuesday that only one bidder submitted this round.
At Tuesday's meeting, the council also approved a payment of $2,500 to help BASS operate through the month of December, as the borough has been doing for the past several months, but Ribitzki said even the monthly payments are not enough to keep BASS from leaving Bloomingdale if they do not have a contract signed by Dec. 31.
"We asked for some help a year before our contract expired. We think we're close, but we have been promised contracts on and off for six years," said Ribitzki. "If it does not get resolved by Dec. 31, we're out of there."
Borough Administrator Ted Ehrenburg had previously confirmed that BASS has been operating without a contract for the past several years. In addition to sheltering animals from Bloomingdale, due to the borogh's shared service agreements, the shelter houses dogs and cats from several surrounding towns as well.
Without a contract and with the increased number of animals at the shelter, Ribitzki said BASS has not been paid an adequate amount to continue paying staff members and keeping up the programs and services BASS offers, such as the spay and neutering program.
"We have to pick and choose which bills to pay," Ribitzki said.
Currently, BASS is housing about 140 cats and 20 dogs, Ribitzki said. Cats are being housed at the former DPW building since the tropical storm from Hurricane Irene left the cat building damaged. Ribitzki said if BASS does move out of Bloomingdale, shelter volunteers would be bringing the animals to their homes until they make arrangements for a new facility.
"We've been looking at a lot of options," said Ribitzki. "We have options to kind of spread out our animals.
Ribitzki said Friday BASS has not heard anything further about their proposal.
Ribitzki said it costs about $200,000 per year to run the animal shelter. She is also seeking about $30,000 in back pay from the borough for what Ribitzki described as costs to keep the sheler operational over the past year.
Cailin O'Connor
1:48 pm on Sunday, December 18, 2011
BASS is a very important part of the community. It would be very sad to see them leave. Figure it out, Bloomingdale! The taxes are sure high enough.
edie
9:20 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
Cailin.....Please keep the good thoughts and comments coming...Thank you
jersey girl
2:24 pm on Sunday, December 18, 2011
Let me preface my statement by saying that I do love animals. BASS has an IRS 501(c) (3) designation, which means that it is a NON-PROFIT association. It is the responsibility of BASS to support the shelter by fund raising, solicitation of funds from corporations, private sources, etc. BASS was orginally started with the "promise" from then Republican Mayor Ann Duhaime that our "tax dollars" would not be used to support the shelter. The republicans have changed their collective minds and decided that the shelter would be supported by OUR tax dollars. Granted the economy has not helped with donations, but that does NOT make it the responsibility of the tax payers, it should mean that the shelter volunteers must work that much harder to raise funding. BASS has "imported" dogs from shelters that are out of state to "bring in customers" in the hopes that they will purchase some animals that have been there for a while. This process has been done for years and has not worked, but they are still doing that at what cost? The shelter is selling these dogs for $275.00 each. This is for a dog that is kept there for approximately 1 week at most, and it doesn't cost that much to keep a dog for a week. These dogs are not checked by vets, given shots, etc. in this state. What are they doing with the balance of the money?
hopenchange?
9:34 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
the dogs "brought in" from southern shelters; are NOT shelters but "kill shelters" and most of the gas the animals, some die some do not. BASS did operate for many years on donations; then our town brought in other towns for "animal control services" which in the end includes sheltering them in the BASS facility - one that this organization thru volunteer work; fund raisers etc - has built up and has had destroyed by flooding and lack of funding. If Bloomingdale want shared services then the other towns contracts should have rates increased to offset the cost of sheltering and rescuing. BASS did NOT receive monies on time or contracts for too many years from the boro. Fundraising efforts had been doing well for many years and you would think with an extra 5 or more towns; there should be more funding - most people see "fundraiser for Bloomingdale Animal Sheter Society" and only see Bloomingdale - they just don't care. If every household or even 1/2 of those in the towns served by this organization donated something along with a rate charged that covers the "no-kill" type of service being utilized by BASS - that is enough to help cover the actual expenses, ALONG with fundraisers, this would be a non-issue. In a town that will spend money for lighting on fields in a bad economy (and I don't care where its coming from) we should find money to keep this shelter running. The dogs that actually are adopted for a fee DO help offset costs of the others.
jersey girl
2:24 pm on Sunday, December 18, 2011
If BASS wishes to go because they are not getting what they want, then let them go. They couldn't find a place the last time they threatened this, and this will happen to them in any other community they attempt to go to. BASS has threatened our town and we cannot permit this kind of behavior to continue.
Flower
3:53 pm on Sunday, December 18, 2011
Yes. More than half of the dogs at BASS are rescues from other states. Many are NOT adopted right away...and sit there for months. BASS does not fund raise as they should, and we forget to mention that they have a paid staff of how many people? All other area non-profits are run by volunteers ONLY so that any money that is collected does not go to salaries. If people were more aware of the goings on at BASS, they wouldn't be as supportive as they are now. And as Jersey Girl said...how many other times have BASS threatened to leave? Can we say...the shelter that cried wolf????
Linda
10:15 pm on Sunday, December 18, 2011
Please.... BASS has not been getting animals from other states, and they have not been getting money from other entities because they have been in a holding pattern. We hope to have the contract settled by the next meeting. BTW, just because an entity is a not-for-profit (401)(c)(3) entity does not mean they cannot get funds from the municipality. Additionally, the only reason the town would be paying them money now is because they are peforming service for a shared service the town has entered into.
edie
9:21 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
Linda, Please keep the positive thoughts coming...............You have my support
paul bastante
1:40 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I find it ironic that if it is someone who is lying, it someone named Linda all the time. Funny, huh? She says that the shelter does NOT take animals from other states. That is a bold faced LIE. I have seen them take in animals from other states with my own eyes. Liar!
Eliz
5:48 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
The Bloomingdale Council should ask for COMPLETE statistics and all animals should be noted from the origin they arrived, including rescues.
Flower
6:21 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
They absolutely DO get animals from other states!!! Linda...it has even been stated in the papers MULTIPLE times!!!! It's not a secret that MORE THAN HALF THE DOGS THAT FILL THOSE KENNELS AT ANY ONE TIME ARE FROM THE SOUTH!!!! Please!!!!! There have also been many cats that have come from other towns and OTHER STATES! Like we don't have enough cats here?!?!? There is a lot of shadiness going on....and if the council and public wish to turn a blind eye, then I pity them. BASS has been crying poverty and bashing the towns it serves for some time now. Do you not think it's going to change? It's not.
jersey girl
6:54 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
Linda..BASS has stated on the record and in several newspaper articles that they rescue dogs from Kentucky and then sell them here. I don't understand the justification of "not been getting money from other entities because they have been in a holding pattern." to what result?? Is it to up the bill to the taxpayers?
Apparently this council thinks "giving" money to BASS, in addition to paying for repairs of the buildings (which under their contract is the responsibility of BASS) is more important than paying the professionals they have a signed contract with. Not only are the taxpayers paying the shelter's bills, but also paying the salary's of some of the "employees". Linda and BASS should stop misleading the taxpayers NOW.
Flower
7:41 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
Hey Linda, by the way it's a 501 (c)(3). Being the shelter liason, you sure don't know much do you? Have you been at the shelter lately???? Take a walk and go visit 2-3 times a month on a Saturday when the van pulls in and delivers anywhere from 5-15 dogs (and sometimes cats) from the South. Infact, the whole council and town should go for a visit and ''greet'' the new arrivals! Sometimes these new arrivals have adopters already lined up to meet them upon their arrival. Or they come within 24 hours, on Sunday. How safe does that make you feel, knowing you are adopting a dog whom nobody knows about (health issues, temperament, how he is with other dogs, cat, KIDS!!!) It's just so unclear to me how you could call yourself the shelter liason, and know nothing in terms about how ''your shelter'' operates. Please......enlighten us all!!!!!!!!
Linda
9:05 am on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Sorry for the typo, I meant 501(c)(3). I have been to the shelter many times, and I have been trying to help them get the areas cleaned up. I also know that they have not been doing rescues as they did in the past because of the shape of the shelter. Additionally, a number of the other council members have visited the shelter. Flower, it is the holiday season try to lighten up. The shelter is helping animals that is what they are supposed to do.
paul bastante
1:41 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Thats why shes on the way out! Thanks for your service, now keep your lies to yourself. Ding Dong!
Linda
1:46 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Paul, First of all I have not been lying. Second, the shelter has not been doing the same amount of rescues as before. I think you should learn from your own comments, and keep them to yourself.
Nicholas Altieri
9:12 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
Flower, should i also comment on how brave you are in hiding your actual identity for fear that when someone like me who has the facts come on here and humiliates you and proves that you are that one that doesn't know what you are talking about. Your misinformed friend Paul can join you. My wife and I are personally involved in the dog transporting. Free of charge to anyone. These dogs and cats come from mostly Kentucky and West Virginia. Have you either of you personally been there and seen where any of these animals go or viewed any of the documentation on the animals or the program. There are multiple pick up and drop off locations along the route where animals are transferred between vehicles to help get them to their final destination. They are spread out to many rescue groups throughout the northern US. Most of them actually going to Connecticut to other shelters, rescues and foster homes. Another fact for you is I not only volunteer for transport but also at BASS. I actually know how many animals come into Bass from the transport and it is very little.
Nicholas Altieri
9:23 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The truth of the situation is that there are times that there are less adoptable dogs in the shelter and when there is room bringing a few small dogs or puppies that draw people into the shelter and also provides much needed funds through their adoptions. Did you also know that all animals that are transported over stated for such a purpose are required to be fully examined by a Veterinarian who provide documentation of the good health or they can not be transported. Most come in without any medical issues and are required to be spayed or neutered by the previous shelter prior to transport. BASS is just a meeting location on a long list for meeting and transfer of the animals between vehicles. Does the gas that I provide myself, and the crates that we purchased ourselves, and the blankets, treats, bowls and leads that we provide with our own money in any way come out of the tax payers money, NO!!!
Nicholas Altieri
9:32 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
It also makes is quite humiliating to Paul how just below he calls someone a "ding dong", which is calling some one names Paul, and in another comment mocks someone else for calling names. That is being a hypocrite Paul and along with everything else you say and write only validates one fact that you do have in your corner. Your ignorance.
edie
9:13 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
Hi Ladies.....I have a BIG gripe.....this is to jersey girl and flower.....my name is Edie DeProspo. I am a resident and tax payer in Bloomingdale. I DO volunteer for the shelter. I also try to do fundraisers to help with financial situations. Oh, by the way, you have big mouths....what are your "real' names? It seems you are concerned about financial ends of the shelter. Why don't u drag your ass there on a Saturday, do some cleaning and something productive?? Are you aware of the fact that other towns (Ringwood, PL, W Caldwell, etc...) give Bloomingdale, NOT THE SHELTER, funds $$$ to cover BASS's expenses? and BASS hasn't rec'd them! you SHOULD be asking where is that money going????? Have you taken the time to actually meet any of the paid or volunteers there? Were you there when it flooded and those animals had no where to go?? How about the major snow storms and had no heat?? Did u run an eletrical extension from your home? Have you tried to fix the building so it is habitable for the animals? it sounds like the only thing you ladies are concerned with is politics. Who cares if we help other states? thats the object of putting ourselves out there as animal rescue people, to help them, not YOU. If BASS is LUCKY enough to receive $275.00 as a donation for a cat or a dog, that really isn't any of your business. It is completely regenerated back into the shelter.....do you get it? if not, i can elaborate with your real names...put your name where your mouth is!
hopenchange?
9:43 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
OK you go Edie. Jersey Girl and Flower - I think most people in "jersey" love and would want to save animals as much as possible; a lot of volunteers had to go back to working full time jobs to support their families and donate food; and other supplies to the shelter; if you spend time with any of these animals and get to know them it maybe wouldn't be so easy to just "write them off" because of where they come from. And "flower" denotes a kind of peaceful existance with nature - I don't get that from your attitude toward rescued animals. Animal Lovers? IDK. I may not know every detail of every transaction; but I have seen the volunteers scramble thru mud and god knows what else to save these animals from flooding and taking them into their homes and too many foster homes; more find homes - thanfully, than those that do not. Cats seem more difficult. Have either of you EVER adopted or Fostered?
The two newest council members have made it seem they are pro- our shelter; lets hope so, and see in January when they are sworn in.
edie
9:57 pm on Monday, December 19, 2011
Hope, Thanks for the support...........Its a shame when you read what Jersey and Flower have to say....I cant help wondering if they have a vested intrest if the shelter goes...Maybe they want to take it over.....ya think........xo
Eliz
11:40 am on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Let's deal with a few facts folks. I think a better definition needs to be determined about how many MUNICIPAL ANIMALS (including shared service towns) are taken care of by the shelter. Oddly, this important fact was NOT included in the RFP spec. So I wonder, what are financials being based on? What is Bloomingdale basing cost on? How many animals are there really without including rescues? Rescues are not Bloomingdale's responsibility. How can RESPONSIBLE decisions be made without the basic facts?!
What is the municipality and the taxpayers paying for?!
Yes, it is expensive to run an animal shelter. Anyone who has a pet knows it's not cheap. With high taxes that's why most municipalities and cities prefer to contract with a non-profit. The reason for that: Non-profits can offset costs with fundraising!!! (By the way, a 501(c)(3) is only one flavor of a non-profit status.) Fundraising reaches out to the public who care about the cause and the particular organization. And by the way, now the quality of the org and its people before you donate. Do your homework. CONTINUED.....
Eliz
11:40 am on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Next, there is nothing wrong with an organization rescuing. BUT most rescues come from southern states having the WORST animal cruelty and abuse laws. Kentucky being the worst with South Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama close behind. (And by the way, New Jersey can do better too!)
So if an org is rescuing from these states, who don't care to improve laws, what exactly is being precipitated by rescuing from them? Orgs get some dogs out and puppy mils and backyard breeders breed more. Nothing has been accomplished in solving the big picture.
Who on the Council has done their homework? What reporter has done their homework on this issue? If we're going to talk about it, let's talk facts. How much is a shelter spending on spay/neuter? How much is a shelter spending vet care beyond spay/neuter, and what animals ever see a vet for a basic exam? How much is spent on salaries? How much is raised through fundraising and how many/what type of fundraising activities are held? Educate yourselves.
paul bastante
1:48 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Yes Eliz, lets hear it. I agree with you.
paul bastante
1:56 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
LINDA HUNTLEY...you ARE lying. Here is your quote..."Please.... BASS has not been getting animals from other states, and they have not been getting money from other entities because they have been in a holding pattern" This is a LIE as I have personally seen animals dropped off from other states. You can say what you want and call me what you want but the FACT remains, you are a liar, Willing to stick to your lies even when you are called out and it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. So go ahead, tell me some more about how animals DONT come from other states.
Linda
2:36 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Paul BASS has not been doing rescues as they have in the past and they have not been getting DONATIONS as in the past. However, that is not the issue. The issue here is their contract for the work they have been doing for the borough of taking in animals that DO NOT COME FROM OTHER STATES.
edie
2:08 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
what is the difference.The point is the ANIMALS......ELIZ...DIDNT YOU WORK FOR THE SHELTER AND GET FIRED?
Eliz
5:06 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I did NOT get fired. I QUIT. Please stop spreading rumors. And if someone is telling you different, ask for proof (and I would like to see it too) and think about that lie they told you.
I do NOT have a bone to pick with them and in fact, my comment was directed toward getting FACTS, and only toward bass because they happen to be doing the one running the shelter. Even more so, I'm speaking to the municipality.
And YES, I do have my facts about the states and they are from the Animal Defense Fund. MANY states need to do better. My point, which I thought I made, was that in the worst states we shouldn't support the problem. And if you don't think you are doing that, you're fooling yourself. Also, NJ sucks in laws to some respect, but in different areas than the other states. Like I said, educate yourselves.
So to recap, since some people don't seem to get the message the first time: I did NOT get fired. I QUIT.
edie
2:11 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
HAVE A BONE TO PICK WITH THEM....ELIZ
AtrueBassSupporter
4:37 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I think some are forgetting that BASS has NOT received the moneys owed to them by the 'towns.' Ironically, some care like what BASS does effects them directly, like it's coming out of their own pockets here. As Edie said, they do take from other states.....yea? so what?? they're still animals in need, which should be EVERYONE'S focus here and it ISN'T. I, personally, have stepped up many times to help the shelter. As far "ELIZ'S" comment about southern animals. Have you done your research? well, I have. Florida, Georgia, Carolinas, KY and so forth have activists trying their damnest to change the laws as we do here in Jersey also. Paul, I am VERY concerned about your comments. Wasn't it YOU just a couple of months ago adding a video of the cats up for adoption there? I'm confused about who's side you are on. I would like to think everyone here is for the animals but it seems politics are more important but yet, I HIGHLY doubt some of you put in any time at the shelter, if you were lucky enough NOT to get fired, and see what they all do there. ALOT of bitching but no pitching here. Lots of big mouths without really putting themselves out there. As far as Linda Huntley's comment, so what if she was incorrect? Paul, again, I'm not sure what your position really is.....I was shocked to see any negativity towards her here. How can we possibly get our politicians to change the laws when people can't even get their own position straight? Actions are MUCH louder than words!
paul bastante
5:51 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Im not on anyone's side. Yes, Ive done work for the shelter. That fact should not be co-mingled with what side of the aisle I am on. I went in to help a few animals. Plain and simple. I also pay almost $11,000 in taxes a year for a ranch in Bloomingdale. I love the animals, as does my little girl, the humans I am not so sure of.
AtrueBassSupporter
6:08 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Paul--I'm also in Bloomingdale.....and pay taxes....BUT, if BASS isn't getting the funds, then you can't blame them! that sounds silly to bring that point up. You SHOULD be on the ANIMALS side, as I am....People suck, thats just life but it's not about that at all. I won't mention names of anyone at the shelter but I've seen it personally, them caring medically for them, making sure no matter what, they have food and clean water/litter/cages every single solitary day. I offered assistance when they flooded, I offered assistance when they had no heat, I offered my truck to transport if needed because the building is rotting away now.....I'd give up my garage if I had to (free of charge, haha)....not because of the people, political or not, but because of the animals. ONLY true animal lovers seem to understand that point that I make. Its sad, but so very true. Maybe you should reach out to the appropriate people who handle the disbursement of the moneys cause it isnt being put into the shelter, that is no secret and that seems to be your gripe here! Again, it isn't about you, me, Elizabeth Geary, Linda Huntley, or any other tax payer...it's about the welfare of the animals. I've always prided myself that I live in a town that provides such a wonderful service and I'd truly hate to see that change.....just think about it....thats all i ask :)
AtrueBassSupporter
5:57 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Elizabeth Geary-----well, we all know you have a vested interest and a motive here. I have to say, it doesn't seem like you really care about the welfare of the animals. I'm not being mean to you, but that is how you are coming across. You should be wanting BASS to get what is owed so the animals benefit. It's a true shame that you quit on the animals, one should never. They truly need us. You seem to worry too much about the political end of things instead of being more productive. It's all about the animals, I can't seem to stress that enough. The paid workers and volunteers haven't received any funds so how is that hurting anything? If they are getting paid from donations, have you personally donated to the shelter?? if you want to keep it political, it's a write-off at the end of the year then....as they DO give you a receipt if you request one! I know you hope and you're only Christmas wish would be for BASS to leave, but, c'mon, what about the furry friends? put your personal feelings aside and think of them, just THEM.......stop with all the legal mumbo jumbo 'cause thats all its been for too long now. I would be very concerned if you were running this shelter just because of your vested interest in the money aspect of things. Your words and actions have spoken clearly and there's a reason you want to mock the way they are running the shelter. Your bid was also turned down so obviously, the town felt your ideas weren't up to par either.
Eliz
6:23 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I HAD an interest, but no longer do, nor do I have motive other than a modicum of finding truth and fairness.
If you knew me, you would know my love for animals.
I don't even know what this refers to: "The paid workers and volunteers haven't received any funds so how is that hurting anything?"
I have made contributions to the shelter in the past. I'm not asking for a write-off nor have I said anything is due to me. I'm not sure what you're after with the comment.
Any venture run without concern for the business side of things...and yes, part of that is money... is one that will fail.
I haven't made any personal attacks here; I'm not sure why others feel they need to do so. I'm sorry if my input is such a threat. And I'm pretty sure it's not legal mumbo-jumbo. Elizabeth Geary.
jersey girl
7:31 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I have brought and recommended several people to BASS to adopt a pet. I am not attacking anyone, just stating facts that are not common knowledge to the public. The people running BASS did a fund raiser and because no one came they had a pizza party. Sorry I cannot agree with their mentality of claiming that they are receiving more animals due to the shared services, when they are "importing" them. People are giving up their pets due to the economy along with the loss of their homes!!! BASS has refused animals that have been brought in by residents that cannot bring them with them! BASS was made several offers by the town for help before the importing began and those offers were refused. At one point BASS was calling the communities that Bloomingdale has shared services agreements to make additional demands for funds for their animals.
jersey girl
9:32 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Edie you said in your statement "There is not one tax dollar that goes to the shelter" but you are wrong. Approximately $2,500.00 per month of TAXPAYER MONEY has been paid to the shelter since September. The town also pays for their utilities and has done so for for a number of years! Again taxpayer money!! BASS states that $2,500 is not enough and they are the ones who stated the amount in the contract, not the town. They want the taxpayers to pay the entire amount of $200,000.00 a year plus salaries.
paul bastante
9:55 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Apparently, my facts WERE straight
AtrueBassSupporter
10:16 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Yea, Paul, as you listen to someone who was fired from that specific shelter for insubordination, but thats ok. like her, we've all made mistakes in life....now that makes sense! your debate is twisted, unclear and you're clearly a switch-hitter. You are a man of many words I must say! Elizabeth, you are not even a Bloomingdale resident so why do you care where our tax money goes? the more I dig around, the more dirty your hands are! You say you USED to have an interest? then what hell are you doing here posting?? You're not a resident/taxpayer, you are no longer an employee, you won't help with donations, you didn't step up when they lost power or when they flooded...did ya??? but you have no interest, just in where MY tax dollars are going? ok, I pay almost that amount in taxes per month, so think of it this way, it's MY money they are getting every month....hows that? You have been out to hurt the shelter and take it over from day one....funny, ya never ran a "legal" shelter....that makes me feel comfortable giving you two thumbs up here! Again, you haven't paid for one damn thing here, I have. You have no place in this conversation anywhere! The public DOES support BASS, as I have, MYSELF, have proof of that, as the surrounding towns. If you think differently, that's your ignorance on that! Anyone that desires this kind of attention has a disorder, one that is mentioned in the dictionary with your picture. Again, put your energy elsewhere and get a life already!
paul bastante
10:35 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Except when youre a coward and wont put your name to the comments.
AtrueBassSupporter
10:50 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Paul, unlike yourself, what I put out there is the truth. The ONLY reason I used a 'handle' instead of my real name is I wanted to be just like Elizabeth, which, for a fact, you ONLY know HER name because I put it out there! OH, I should go a step further and let you know that she is also jersey girl and flower....talk about multiple personailty! The only thing I said to you was the truth, obviously, you can't handle it, thats not my fault. I'm far from a coward, as I said, I do everything for a reason. I have stuck by how I feel and I haven't 'changed' sides here as you have. You KNOW exactly who I am, just not intellegent enough to figure it out on your own. We WERE 'friends' at one point too.....go figure! You can call me what ever name you wish, cat-lady is fine with me as I have been an advocate for ALL animals nationwide for a very long time. I have put my money where my mouth is on numerous occasions without any credit and will continue to do so. As I have simply said to you, if you want your moneys disbursed in a different fashion in this town, BASS isn't the place for you to go to discuss that......hmmmm....a penny for your thought, do u really think you will get a 'discount' next year in your taxes if BASS leaves?? nevermind, I don't care for your 2 sense here. I saw right through you and you're pissed off so you resort to name calling...whatever, clearly your opinion doesn't matter much, only to "Eliz" remember, the one I told you her name in the 1st place!
Debbie O'Neill
10:48 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Not that I don't love animals and appreciate anyone who feels passionately about their safety and welfare, but it seems like the conversation has degenerated into something less worthy.
Maybe reading the plan crash article (link below) will help everyone keep things in perspective and remind us all to appreciate everyone and everything in our lives and to not take one moment on this earth for granted.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/12/5_killed_in_plane_crash_in_mor.html
Wishing everyone a joyful and peaceful holiday season and a Happy & Healthy New Year.
paul bastante
10:50 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Well said Debbie!
AtrueBassSupporter
11:26 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
exactly, Debbie! Happy Holidays to you and yours. It was such a tragedy yesterday and I hope they all RIP.
paul bastante
10:53 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
I cant be bothered reading your long winded idiot retorts any longer. State your name crazy cat lady or be ignored.
paul bastante
11:33 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Yeah, I can't focus on anything, I cant sleep at night. You are a legend in your own mind.
jersey girl
12:32 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
jersey girl and elizabeth are not one in the same.
Flower
1:00 am on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Neither is Flower. Idiots.
Ariana Cohn-Sheehan
12:50 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Hi everyone, I'd ask that we keep the conversation to a debate about the issues and not about other commenters. Otherwise, I will be forced to shut off the comments feature on this article. Thank you, and have a Happy Holiday!
AtrueBassSupporter
4:44 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Hi Ariana. I removed the comments that may have been considered inappropriate. It is very much out of my character to stoop to that level and I do apologize. I wish you and yours a very happy and healthy holiday season.
Innocent Bistander
2:57 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Just wanted to share that BASS currently had 16 dogs. 10 of those dogs are from the towns BASS services. 2 were strays found by animal control and never claimed. 1 was tied to the fence outside of the shelter when the shelter was closed overnight and found in the morning. The other 7 were surrendered by people in the local area that no longer wanted the dog or could take care of the dog. Those have been at the shelter from 1 month to 1 year. The other 6 dogs are rescued from other states.
As far as the cats, there are about 135. All are from the towns bass services. They are either found as strays, caught as ferrals, or surrendered by their owners.
That is 145 animals from this area. 6 from out of state.
Eliz
6:48 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
I will not continue to respond to the nasty, bitter, and negative comments. I will correct the record though:
1. I am not "jersey girl" or flower." I used my first name.
2. I did help out a great deal in the March 2010 flood and evacuate.
3. My conscience, soul, and hands are clean. (Even though that attack on me was removed.)
G-d bless.
hopenchange?
9:11 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
Well now that we got the record straight on where the dogs and cats are from at the BASS shelter; is everyone happy? Killing is cheap - just ask our DEP-Fish and Game People that charge what? Like $5 to kill a bear in NJ? A mom, A cub no matter the size or age? Keeping the Pets alive to become pets to someone who actually cares about them; costs money, time and people. Unfortunately in these economic times, very few people can "not work" and can volunteer full time as in the past. My 2nd "shelter" dog came from the Bloomingdale 'pound' - that is what it was called then. Bud Bird was a dpw employee and his wife drove him to pick up "strays" and people just dropped off unwanteds by the dpw. Most were "gassed" at that time. We have come a long way - and hopefully won't fall back to that time. Bud called us because some idiot tied a small sheltie/brittney mix to the door of the dpw on a 4' leash over the Christmas holiday. The DPW was closed, no cameras to catch them and it snowed - she was there for a couple of days, freezing, scared and without food until the DPW re-opened. He called us because he just couldn't put her down; she was "special" he said. Would we foster her til a home was found - that WAS NOT the norm then. We already had a mix from Pequannock shelter but took her. WE "fostered" her for 17yrs until she found a new owner - in heaven. That was a nice ending for that pup. But many, many more were not so lucky. Maybe we actually haven't come as far as I thought.
AtrueBassSupporter
6:25 pm on Wednesday, December 28, 2011
well said, hopenchange and thank you for giving your furbaby a temporary/furever home. happy new year to you and yours.
paul bastante
9:32 pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2012
ok Nick. You are entitled to your opinion. Duly noted buddy! Good health to you sir!