UPDATE: 40 Kids, 2 Adults Sent to Hospital After Bus Crash
Buses carrying 9- and 10-year-old children collide on I-80 in Parsippany.
A total of 40 children—9- and 10-year-olds— and two adults were sent to area hospitals after one school bus rear-ended another at milepost 42.9 on eastbound Interstate 80 in Parsippany Thursday morning, State Police said.
One juvenile was transported to Morristown Medical Center with an asthma condition and 39 other children and two adults were transported to area hospitals for reasons ranging from complaints of pain to minor cuts and bruises, state police said.
Nineteen of the 40 kids went to St. Clare's in Denville and the rest went to Morristown Medical Center, state police said. The buses were part of a caravan headed to Six Flags from Lindenmeyer Sports Camp in Tannersville, Pa. The buses were transporting 9- and 10-year-olds, state police said.
State Trooper Christopher Kay said initial reports showed only the one child who suffered from the asthma attack was taken to a hospital. However, others then also needed to be transported.
The accident occurred shortly before 11 a.m., and closed the right lane of the highway while the crash was investigated until about 12:30 p.m., state police said.
Two additional buses sustained minor damage in the crash, state police said.
Officials are determining whether there will be charges filed as a result of the incident.
Prentiss Gray
2:26 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Sounds like we need better seat belts on school busses.
Rebecca
3:14 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
they do have seatbelts but the kids either don't use them or unbuckle during their ride.
Marie Intili
7:25 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Seat belts are lap belts.....if the kids wear them they would be effective.....but most kids dont wear them.....
VietNam Vet
7:18 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
Prentiss, that would be great but the kids don't want to wear them. I drove a school bus for about a year and a half before moving on to large coach busses. Its up to the driver to make sure the children keep them on, I saw alot of the tricks the kids like to play. Kids put seatbelts on real loose so they can slip right out by slidding down in the seat. Parents must tell the kids to wear the belts or else. The driver is limited to what he can do to make them keep the on.
steve
11:40 am on Sunday, July 1, 2012
none of the buses from this accident had seat belts.i was a driver that day and work for the company that provided the transportation.
cw
2:36 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Or better drivers that don't tailgate. Nobody whether school bus or personal vehicals should caravan.
Glad to hear no serious injuries. Lots of emotional trauma for those kids
Lisa
3:14 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
how about putting some adult chaperones on to ensure they keep belts on or kids who dont listen dont go on the trip. this is scary. coach busses have no belts and not even a law to wear in florida
VietNam Vet
11:41 pm on Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Lisa, there is a law that says that if the driver sees the kids don't have seat belts on and up and walking around, then he should stop the bus untill the children sit down. I told a Principal that one time, that I will not move the bus until they sit down in their seats, and the Principal came on the bus to make them sit down, or otherwise I pulled over until they sat down. If the driver has a problem with a student then he is supposeto bring it to the attention of the principal as I had to do a few times because of a kid cursing and disrupting the other kids.
Jesi
3:43 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Please they got in a fender bender... oh the trauma why are we all so fragile these days?
Rebecca
3:52 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I concur.
Lonnie Grizler
3:47 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I am outraged that so many kids went to the hospital. I would hope there are seatbelts on these busses, years ago there weren't. 39 children going to the hospital tells me those kids did not have them on. If this was a day camp bus, the counselors should have made sure all were buckled in. Yup still outraged here.
Small town girl
7:57 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
The counselors, nor the bus driver is responsible for making sure the children are wearing their seatbelts. I know maybe I'm old fashion but, I think it's the parents job to instill in their child that they must wear a seatbelt at all times. Its the law.
Marie Intili
8:13 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I agree with you Small town girl! But I must say even when I drove a school bus ....I ALWAYS told my kids to buckle up as I do in my own car!
Bee
4:07 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Most school buses have cameras in them.If they weren't wearing seat belts it will be easy to tell .I bet the lawyers are lining up at the hospital door!
Marie Intili
7:28 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
Most buses do have cameras.....but from what i believe as its still not a law, if there is an accident involved and your child was NOT wearing a seat belt....then the parent will or can get the ticket! Im hoping all the students were ok and hope that parents try to instill to their children that even in a school bus they need to wear them!
steve
11:38 am on Sunday, July 1, 2012
none of thoses busses have seat belts,i was a driver that day and work for the company that provided the camps transportation.
Bee
7:44 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0055.htm
@Marie Intili- this article states,"It is a law in nj"
What state was that school bus in that the bus monitor was being bullied by the students? Those kids weren't wearing seat belts .
Bee
7:48 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
@Marie- A law to have seat belts , but the bus driver is not responsible if a child gets hurt!
Marie Intili
8:01 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
New Jersey
New Jersey requires school buses to have lap belts or other child restraint systems that meet federal standards and certain minimum seat back heights. It requires students to wear a properly adjusted and fastened seat belt while the bus is operating, and relieves school bus owners and operators of liability for a passenger's failure to wear a seat belt if that failure directly results in an injury to the passenger (N.J. Stat. Ann. § 39:3B-10 and § 39:3B-11).
Yes thats it so far.....the laws state that the buses need to have belts but basically the children dont have to wear them.....I think thats crazy cause all my kids on my bus did......especially all the young ones.....but because of the way the law is still....and they are/will be changing this real soon......the driver nor monitor cannot be held responsible if the student doesnt wear it. OMG Ive read so many articles about monitors being beaten and bullied by 8 year old kids......its getting very scarey out there! Never the less....hopefully no one was seriously hurt here.
Small town girl
8:14 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
I try my hardest to make sure that the kids on my bus put their seatbelts on. I only drive a 24 passenger and I can't get them to keep it on, so I can imagine the problem of making sure 52 students put their seatbelts on and keep them on. I'm not sure how they expect a bus driver to make sure the children are wearing their seatbelt. Again, tell your kids it's the law and they can get hurt and in trouble if they don't.
Marie Intili
8:27 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
You got that right.....the driver of a 54 passenger should be driving and paying attention to loading and unloading.....how can he/she possibly watch 54 kids seat belts....but its all different on 24 passengers vehicles.....most of the time those are special needs students and require a monitor where it can be more closely watched.....but you know how that goes to........
Bee
8:54 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
@ Marie + small town girl - I give you both so much credit ! Its not an easy job driving a huge bus with kids not listening ! Keep up the good work!
donna kent
9:46 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012
maybe if the buses were traveling the speed limit and not tailgating each other this wouldnt have happened at all....i was on 80 east last friday and yellow buses were passing me going 80mph!!! one after another---full of kids......the drivers are a disgrace!
Marie Intili
5:07 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
At Donna......Im a bus driver also and couple weeks ago I reported a bus on 287 that was speeding with kids on the bus too....I have no tolerance for that myself! You are taking 54 lives into your hands when u get behind the wheel of a bus!!! Whether you are responsible or not....in my mind I AM! I see something not right....I report it!
Marie Intili
5:08 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
You need to report these things to the bus company @ Donna and anyone else....who sees crazy driving on the road....cars and especially buses!
barbara
8:26 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
Marie and lorri you two are rediculous with your comments !! First of all the buses are small ,and the seat in front of each other is hardly much leg room it is still traumatic any way you look at it and the kids could have gotten injured by the child seated next to them or the seat in front !! I have children ok and the teachers do make sure all the kids are strapped before they move the bus !! Or the counselers.....and wow your outraged ?? And a lawyer waiting at the hospital lined up ?? Why is that what u would do !! Have a heart if it were your child you would be reacting different !! Thank god noone was seriously injured !! And everyone bus driver ,car,truck ,motorcycyle no one obeys the rules and Marie & lorri you both probably text and drive or use your cell so don't talk so much crap like you two are perfect !! Sending prayers out to the bus driver and the kids !!
VietNam Vet
1:33 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012
Barbara, before you go coming down on someone esle who drives your little babies back and forth maybe you should walk a mile in our shoes and see what its really like and how some drivers are beaten by the kids of today. I had a call on my radio one time about a drivers getting beaten by the kids and my kids on my bus thought it was 'Cool" the the woman was getting beaten. Maybe you think thats funny, well we don't.
Bee
9:06 am on Friday, June 29, 2012
@ Barbara- you sound so religious -" sending prayers out to the bus driver and kids!" wow what a good kind hearted hypocrite !Do you make sure you sit in the front row at your religious venue while your looking back at everyone pointing your finger at them?
Marie Intili
4:25 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Excuse me Barbara! It was not right tailgaiting as I said....so what is your problem! I agree with Barbara's comment to you! These buses were 54 passenger buses....the largest bus there is!!!! They were not the small buses as you said! There is ALOT of leg room and the seats are designed to take brunts of rear end crashes...cushioned high seats! Yes any accident is tramatic...never said it wasnt! I didnt make the comment about the lawyers lined up...someone else did...I commented to it. Both my children rode buses and therefore you have no right saying if it were my child i would react different! You speak for yourself! You are the one that is texting while driving or talking on the phone or smoking a cigg or even eating in the car!!! I obey THE LAWS and am AND ALWAYS WAS EXTRA CAREFUL WHILE DRIVING A BUS!!! I have a completely clean driving record and have been driving a bus for over 25 years! So maybe you should think before u point fingers!
Edd Flammer
4:27 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012
Also worth noting that if the kids have as much as scratch and there is no parent present there is often little choice about them going to the hospital
Nose Wayne
12:50 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012
WOW, Ed you are the first male to post something on this topic.Sounds like all the mommy's are PMSing.The claws are out!!!!
steve
11:17 am on Sunday, July 1, 2012
i was a driver in the caravan and none of our busses have seal belts.i was not involved in the accident as i was in the front of the caravan.
Marie Intili
2:11 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
How are those buses passing inspection without seatbelts? I honestly cannot believe that since a law passed about the older buses being required to have them installed....
steve
11:19 am on Sunday, July 1, 2012
they were all 48 passenger busses at 2 per seat.
Kimberly
2:30 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
in the state of Pennsylvania where the buses are from they are not required to have seat belts in them. They are 72 passenger buses not small ones. Most people that use this company only put 2 in a seat which makes it 48 people in the seats but some do put 3 to a seat.
steve
2:59 pm on Sunday, July 1, 2012
sorry kim you are correct.we always tell customers 2 to a seat which makes it 48.but the bus can handle 72.this is so unfortunate that this happened.we are a very reputable company with over 50 years of safe transportation.the owner is very upset and feels terrible.i knw when i drive a bus or any commercial vehicle to keep my distance as they dont stop nearly as quick as a vehicle.i care about theses kids as they were my own.
Marie Intili
7:20 am on Friday, July 20, 2012
You are right Steve.....As a driver of a commercial vehicle we all should know to keep a safe following distance ESPECIALLY since the stopping distance is not the same as a car! Glad to hear you care as they were your own....thats the way it should be as I feel the same way! I cannot believe some of the comments here!
Marie Intili
7:26 am on Friday, July 20, 2012
@ Paul Brown......I used to do the same thing.....you can only do so much being the only adult on a regular 54 passenger by telling everyone to buckle up.....Small children u can be sure before u take off everyone is belted.....if students got up....THEN this must mean they are not properly buckeled....I would say something first....then pull over! Of course you tell the principal and the principal takes care of it....if it continues....they loose their privilege to ride. These values I thought as my kids know are instilled at home first.....and should continue in any vehicle ridden! But they all have tricks!
VietNam Vet
1:41 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012
Marie, I do agree with you, the children don't always use the seat belts, but I made darn sure they did. I had 56 kids{I know its only 54 passenger} they eventuaaly took a couple from my run and I wasn't happy about that. I loved my kids, they were the very best and I had a great rapore with my kids and we had fun as well but my kids did listen to me, and knew that I would be there for them no matter what. I had fun doing my job...my terminal manager ask me one time how I was doing and I told her I was having so much fun, that I couldn't believe I got paid to do that job. My kids were the best, and I drove high school, and the 6,7,&8th graders and the K-2 kids. I loved my job.
Marie Intili
7:38 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012
SAme here Paul. If you dont estabkish a giod rapore w your students from the beginning they will step all over you! I too drove all grades. Never in my 15 years had any problems with my kids nor any accidents. Knock knock! Proud if that too!