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Kinnelon Teachers to Boycott High School Graduation

Board president said she would hope teachers would want to attend.

 

With the exception of the chorus and band director and those directly involved in the ceremony, no Kinnelon High School teachers have signed up to attend the high school commencement ceremony on June 15, according to Kinnelon Public Schools Interim Superintendent Diane DiGiuseppe.

As a result, administrators will be responsible for checking students' pockets and ensuring a smooth ceremony, as is typically done by teachers who volunteer.

DiGiuseppe said Thursday a signup sheet asking who will be attending has been posted at the high school for several weeks and that it is unusual that teachers have not signed up at this point. She also commented that the teachers' expected absence is in relation to ongoing negotiations between the Kinnelon Board of Education and Kinnelon Education Association, the union that represents the teachers.

"I just hope that the negotiations are resolved, just for everyone involved," she said.

DiGiuseppe said June 30 will mark one full year since the teachers' contracts expired in 2011. For the past several board of education meetings, many teachers have attended wearing green KEA t-shirts.

KEA President Tom Shannon has declined comment to Tri-Boro Patch, but Board Vice President Keith Dama, the negotiations chair for the board, said the board has made attempts to meet with the union, which is now pursuing arbitration.

"We've made many attempts over time to meet directly with the KEA, but the KEA leadership has preferred to meet with the arbitrators," Dama said.

Dama said the board's representation and KEA leadership are scheduled to meet with an arbitrator again this month, but that the entities are now relying on schedules of mediators, arbitrators and lawyers to be able to coordinate meetings.

Erin Gadhavi, a district parent, asked what the board can do to speed up the process, but Dama said the board will be continuing to meet with the arbitrators.

"From a parent's perspective, it would be nice to see this kind of move forward," Gadhavi said.

Board President Margaret Zybrick made a statement at the beginning of the meeting (see video for statement) that the board has not asked the teachers not to attend the graduation and that they are welcome to attend. She also responded to rumors that the KEA members were asked to leave a public board of education meeting where students were being awarded and said it is illegal to ask anyone to leave the board of education meetings.

After the meeting, she said news that teachers would not be attending graduation has spread throughout the community and that students have even spoken about it.

"We would hope they would come," she said. "They taught these kids for 12 years."

Related Topics: Kinnelon Board of Education, Kinnelon Education Association, Kinnelon High School, and Teachers' Contracts

joe

10:47 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

get rid of the unions.......

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Break the Union

5:45 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

I also have heard the teachers have decided not to write letters of reccomendation. It's funny how the KEA claims to be in it for the kids. Unfortunately the teachers do not negotiate in good faith. When pressed they turn against the children of our community in retaliation for not getting what they want. I hope the BOE breaks the union and gets rid of the bad teachers. We all know the union is there to protect the worst teachers. Quality teachers do not need a union. I applaud the board for all it's efforts. Teachers, youu should be ashamed of yourselves real professionals would never behave this way.

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Time for real change

6:10 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

As parents and taxpayers we need to unite and support the board. For too long the KEA has leveraged our children for higher pay and benefits stipends for everything pricing us out of our homes. We have supported the teachers in this community beyond reasonable and this is how they choose to behave. As parents and over burdened taxpayers lets tell the teachers their behavior is despicable and we support the board of ed in their quest to contain costs in these bad economic times. I would love to have a life time pension for myself and my spouse lifetime medical with $5 co pays and summers off. Have my advanced degree paid for by others. These unrealistic benefits we have supported for decades and they still want more, When they do not get what they want the punish our children. I would love to see every parent in Kinnelon go to the schools wearing a t shirt that says support the taxpayer and show united support for the BOE.

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Larry Huyler

9:01 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

The KEA should not be stifling teachers from writing Letters of Recommendations or preventing teachers from attending graduation ceremonies for their students. They worked hard and looked up to their teachers to get to this point. However, I think the taxpayers need more information on the big picture to understand both sides of the table. Perhaps, the Patch can publish the wages and benefits for not only the Kinnelon teachers, but for administrators and the BOE members. Then publish alongside a similar breakdown for other neighboring school districts (teachers/administrators/BOE members) for comparison. From there, the taxpayers could make a true evaluation of situation and determine where the major costs lay and whether Kinnelon's salaries are competitive with others. Maybe, just maybe, the taxpayers may find that the school system is "top heavy" or is under scale to other school systems.

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Curly

9:59 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

Look at the school report-make sure you're comparing to the same factor group not Newark to Kinnelon. Also, BOE members are not paid in Kinnelon and I would surmise there are too many hidden perks for the teachers that the public will not know.

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Ariana Cohn-Sheehan

11:24 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

Curly, here was a story we posted last year that compares the numbers: http://patch.com/A-j864

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Larry Huyler

12:14 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

OK, so the chart shows Kinnelon Administrators making almost TWICE what a teacher does. Both, teachers and administrators make in the ballpark of 2-10 G's a year above some local school districts. But here's where the rubber meets the road - where do THOSE other school districts place on the State-wide list for proficiency? Just a couple weeks ago the Patch ran an article saying how well KHS did against other high schools in the Nation. I understand the cry of the community, after all, they are the one's paying taxes to run the show and it is thier kids being affected by this whole shebang, but we also have to remember that while the great majority of the teachers may have taken the job because they love teaching and DO care about their students, they also have bills to pay, mouth's to feed, and taxes too. But I go back to my original statement that the teachers shouldn't play the kids against the school board, but it looks like that's all they have left.

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tom a hawk

3:01 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

Larry, Do you actually live in Kinnelon? or just teach here? There are many great teachers in the district but unfortunately, a lot that need to be let go. I've witnessed many who are great, but once get tenure, seem to decline. As for the KEA president? If there was a poll for KHS parents, should he stay or should he go? He should've been gone a looooong time ago. That's why the tutors (many of which are district teachers) make a killing here!

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Small town girl

4:29 pm on Sunday, June 10, 2012

I grew up in Kinnelon and went though the school system myself, and I have two KHS grads. and one still in school.  I'll be honest, I really don't think it matters if the teachers are at the KHS graduation.  The reason they go is to help out, the kids and parents don't even notice who is there and who is not.  In another article this was mentioned "Some community members have also said that the teachers have not been willing to write letters of recommendation for the students." having two that have graduated already, these letters are supposed to be requested in the fall, at the senior parents meeting they have in aug.- sept. they tell you if you wait to long to ask, you might not get one.  So, I don't believe that the teachers are trying to hurt the children. 

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Small town girl

4:31 pm on Sunday, June 10, 2012

Part1
On another note, there are a lot of teachers that must go, some of these teachers have been here since I was in school.  I do believe that once most of these teacher get tenure, they decline. I realize that we rank very high in the state and the nation.  But, I also realize that more then 70% of the students are tutored in some way or another.  People in this town want their children to be well educated and they are willing to do everything they can to provide that.  These children also come from homes with well educated parents. Which is why Kinnelon students rank so high. 

There are some teachers that make $100,000.00 a year.  Ok! there are other jobs that make $100,000.00 a year, these people work hard and have a lot of stress too, the only difference is, is that they work 260 days a year, 8 hours a day, and bring their work home too, with no overtime.  Teachers work 182 days a year,  6 hours a day with kids and 2 hours with out, they get paid sick days, and personal days. 

 

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Small town girl

4:34 pm on Sunday, June 10, 2012

Part 2

If you break down the $100,000.00 a year, that is $549.45 a day and in Kinnelon the Median male income: $64,673 with Median family income: $110,593. Now, my question is, why are we paying for tutors, and most of the tutors are the teachers we payed in the first place, and we have teachers making more money then us.  Crazy!  I'm sorry I can't defend the teachers.  

Attached 2010/2011 salaries by teachers/school:

http://php.app.com/edstaff/results2.php?pageNum_Recordset1=0&totalRows_Recordset1=205&county=MORRIS&district=KINNELON+BOROUGH&school=%25&lname=&fname=&job1=%25&Submit=Submit

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Tom Frenole

4:35 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

"Hidden Perks"? How could there be such a thing in a public contract? Also, look at the changes proposed in the new contract to see if they are reasonable.

Kinnelon Parent

9:03 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

It would be a shame for these teachers who have taught and mentored these kids for 4 years and watched them grow into young adults to not attend or get involved in this special occasssion for the students. As educators, they should "want" to be there to support these young people of our community as they embark on their future endeavors. At some point the teachers need to "put aside" their differences with the Bd of Ed and "do whats right" for the young minds they haved shaped and for the young people who "look up to" these educators. I personally would think much less of the teachers in the HS should they choose not to attend. Teachers...- DO NOT tarnish the great reputation you have and the boatloads of respect you have from both students and parents alike. Rise above the conflict and step up and do whats right for the kids of our community.

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Adam Barish

9:48 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

Come on teachers...Is it about the Kids or the money and benefits? Over and over you reveal your true motivations. A real shame. I used to look up to my teachers.

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Tom Frenole

7:28 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

do you do your job for personal gain or for "the good of the company"?

GoodRoleModels

10:35 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

So much for it being "about the kids"..... I hope the admin sticks it to the union. They need to open their eyes and realize times have changed.

They should be embarrassed by this and everyone in town should unite in showing our disgust.

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Tom Frenole

5:04 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

..and you do your job "for the company"?

mike w

11:28 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

Its all about the money.... have you ever heard a teacher not complain about how poorly they are treated? Its ridiculous, and they should be ashamed of themselves. They are only hurting the kids... as usual. Be thankful that you have the very lucrative jobs that you have, and compare your salary and benefits to others who work much longer hours and with the same or more educational backgrounds and skills. Please stop whining, and just realize how truly fortunate that you are all.

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Tom Frenole

7:32 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Good point. Kinnelon should get rid of all the teachers, sell the school assets, and we should all home school the kids. That will solve everything! Think of the money you will save. Uh, that is the whole point, right?

Teachable momenth

1:07 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

Teachers could learn something about character from the Ohio student athlete that helped a competitor who was hurt finish a race forcing her self to come last place.
http://larrybrownsports.com/high-school/runner-meghan-vogel-carry-finish-line-video/139732

Kea you could learn something on how to get community support.

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Ron Silton

3:10 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

This sounds a lot like what we went through when I graduated KHS in '69. There was a big battle between the BOE and the Teachers' Union and in the end a lot of teachers left rather than stay on. I believe that school administration had a lot to do with it too.

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Kinnelon Education Tops

9:05 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

Ron - You bring up a very point which many of us are fearful about. There are a few very good and well respected teachers who I have spoken to (that truly don't make a lot of money by any stretch of the imagination) who are looking to leave Kinnelon. They have had enough of the negativity from the public and the BOE. I can't say I blame them. To them, it has nothing to do with not having a contract, but rather the complete lack of respect. I have lived here a long time and have never seen such teacher bashing in all my life. The departure of good teachers will have a negative impact on our schools and our children. I for one don't want to see good teachers leave! Why should they stay? We need to show the teachers of Kinnelon that we support them!

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get the kleenex

11:38 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

Give me a break! Do you really live here? I think this comment is BS. Because if you are a resident that doesn't teach here, you would realize that the parents (taxpayers) are who are paying the teachers salaries. We have very little ratables and our tax base is mostly the parents/residents. The parents are very involved in the school system and part of the team. I do not know any parents that do not respect the good teachers, unfortunately there are quite a few bad apples that keep getting shuffled around. I think the unemployment rate speaks for itself and the pool is pretty deep. It would be sad to see qualified teachers leave but they aren't irreplaceable with non-tenured teachers. Maybe they can get jobs in Abbott districts (which we pay for too) and get combat pay with no parental support. The grass is always greener.....

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Larry Huyler

11:10 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

tom a hawk, no I am not a teacher there and while I no longer live in Kinnelon, I was raised there and went to school from Kindergarten at Kiel to graduating KHS. I know firsthand that the cost of living in Kinnelon is very high in comparison with other local communities and that the bulk of the tax dollar goes to education. Taxpayers and parents want the best education they can get for their child or children. If we all look back to when we were in school I'm sure that you can remember those teachers that wanted to make a difference in their student's life and those who were only there to draw a check. I won't be surprised if you can't remember the names of those that were there just for the money. I consider myself lucky as I have a bunch of great teachers and still correspond with them. But it's the same in every business.

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Tom A Hawk

8:06 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

So how many years have passes since your tenure in the KHS system? and are those teachers still in the system? First of all, don't assume I had the same experience as you. I live here now, and pay taxes now (unlike you if you only "grew up here") and my education was from "the other side of the spectrum" so I can compare how good the KHS teachers really have it. Yes, I want the best PUBLIC education but that doesn't mean you keep bleeding the taxpayers dry over being paid 5 minutes to get the kids on and off the bus. READ their contract! BTW, if you don't live here now, how do you really know what is going on in the schools? I would love to say that all the teachers are inspiring but unfortunately there are quite a few that need to go and I'm sure most parents today, who currently have children in the system would agree.

Larry Huyler

11:13 pm on Saturday, June 9, 2012

Those teachers boycotting the Senior Graduation in protest of the School Board are doing what is called "posturing". It is a typical ploy used during negotiations and happens all the time, usually over an emotional issue. While both sides of the table use it, it is nothing more a temporary good feeling and a waste of time that could be used to find some common ground to work from. It does not surprise me when I hear stories of the teachers feeling they are being disrespected by the BOE. I know. They did it to me 42+ years ago when, as a student, I attended one of their meetings and raised a few questions about what was happening within the school only to have one member mock me and another make a flippant comment to me about my questions.
Lastly, there will be those teachers that will attend Senior graduation as a show of support to their students and there will be those who will "have better things to do". Teachers - your students will remember, like I did, of those who did attend the graduation. It's up to you to "do the right thing". Do it for the students, not the BOE.

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Adam Barish

9:05 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

While I work in the private sector. I can honestly say I work for the good of the company AND for my own personal gain. I don't separate the two. If the company does not thrive and survive, nor do I. I do plenty of uncompensated things for my company as I'm sure most of the commenters do. It's not union mentality though. Prior to my kids being in High School I VOLUNTEERED to help in the schools and worked long hours and Volunteered in the community. Unions are for the lazy.

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Tom Frenole

11:11 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

So, would it be appropriat to say, "But Adam, why don't you work 12 hour days for the good of the company?" Of course, you are working for a living. When we volunteer, we give of ourselves with no remuneration. This is still a job, and they expect to get paid for what they do, just like the rest of us. They aren't volunteering.

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Small town girl

5:13 pm on Sunday, June 17, 2012

Tom in these trying times, it's great that you have not been affected. But, there are many that have been affected. Many companies have had to let go of great employes and tacted on more work to the rest of them. So, there are many that have much more work at the same pay rate, believe me they're not happy but they have a job. This is happening in union and non union jobs.

I can't say I'm sure what the new contract is about, I see some are posting about getting the class to and from the busses. I could see how the teachers wouldn't want to take the 5-10 minutes of time away from tutoring the children for a fee, of course. I understand that we rate very high in school ratings, I don't feel that you can thank the teachers 100% for that. I'm sure you are aware of the fact that these children are coming from well educated parents, and well rounded homes. So, of course that makes a world of a difference.

Adam Barish

3:06 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

And they get paid for every "five minutes". Let's all acknowledge they get a years pay for 3/4 year work. Some teachers choose to work the extra quarter. I can't believe that teachers don't see their day as a certain amount of compensation for a package of performance. i.e. come in early or stay late (scheduled or unscheduled) to help a student when not specifically written in the contract. Write a letter, even though it isn't written in the contract. Take a class or attend a seminar, with or without compensation, when it is not in the contract. It isn't just the teacher's union I'm fed up with. Those at the MVC, the DOT, etc. IMHO, All the unions are outdated and anti-american and hurtful to our economy. (generalized)

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Tom Frenole

3:45 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Look at it this way instead....they get paid their salary for the period that they are working...including the spring/winter breaks. But they don't get paid for the summer - last paycheck is next week. That's the basis for the job. Does the town want to eliminate payment for the break periods? The adjacent towns won't, so consider what a school employee will say: "Should I work for Kinnelon or West Milford?" How would you make that decision? You want to have school 12 months long in Kinnelon? Again, if you offer me a job that pays $X for 10 months, and another that offers me the same amount of money for 12 months, which do you think I'll take? Then change the whole state's policy. Like the former Kinnelon superintendant, why would I work in NJ when I can make 50% more working in Staten Island? It's all supply and demand folks. You are in competition with the other school districts. You offer a good salary/benefits package, and it shows up in the quality of the workers. How do you measure that quality? Look at the stats for your kids' test scores vs. other districts. You want to lower the salary/benefits? You will not attract the best, and it will likewise reflect in your kids' scores and ultimately your property value. (BTW, I work in the private sector, and that's the way it works there also).

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Tom Frenole

3:57 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Further to your comment, I can tell you that many of them have been doing the things you've mentioned, without extra compensation, over the years and without fanfare. The issue now is that management is nickle and diming them in the new contract and is telling them they will be required to strictly adhere to the letter of the proposed agreement. That just sets up the situation we see now. Ask the board to show you what the differences are in the contract, and see what you'd be willing to swallow at your job with no additional compensation. I've been in situations like that (not in a union capacity) and I've replied with my feet. "You want me to do what for no additional money? I'll work somewhere else, thanks." Guess what's happening to your teachers? They're in the process of doing the same thing right now. Say goodbye to your high scores.

Adam Barish

3:56 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

I do get your point. But given many Kinnelon kids benefit from tutors and SAT prep that other "poorer district" don't I'm not certain you can say Kinnelon's teachers are any better. I met a few I was not happy my children had. I'm quite certain you can say that in most districts. As far as Staten Island paying more...it's a matter of personal value. I would take a lower paying job closer to home than drive 40 min, an hour, even a half hour drive. Time/gas/miles/ all plays a part. Although not a teacher, if I were I know I would prefer a suburb over a city, and I would take less to work in a suburb.

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Tom Frenole

8:52 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Well, in his case I heard he's making $250k +, AND drawing a pension from Kinnelon...and spending it in NY. Guess it's worth moving for.

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