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Mother Says Son's Overdose Part of Epidemic

Abby Boxman testified at hearing on youth drug and alcohol abuse that her son was a casualty in a losing battle.

 
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Abby Boxman sat with a framed photo of her son in her hand.

A son she lost to an overdose a little less than a year ago.

The Monmouth mother was at the Daytop Prep School in Mendham Tuesday to share her story with the Task Force on Heroin and Other Opiate Use Amongst New Jersey's Youth and Young Adults.

A story, she hoped would save other mothers from the pain she feels.

She described her 21-year-old son Justin as a good kid who could not overcome the addiction that lead to his July 13, 2011 passing. 

"Or angelversary as they say in heaven," Boxman said.

An emotional Boxman said that she wasn't sure if she was going to be able to testify for the panel, but that the support she received from GRASP (Grief Recovery After Substance Passing) has helped her get stronger.

"I am doing this for my son," Boxman said. "This type of pain I wouldn't wish on anyone. I wouldn't wish this on the worst person in the world.

For her part, Boxman said her conversations with other members of GRASP has led her to common denominators.

"Nearly everyone I speak to said the same thing. They start with prescription drugs and move on to heroin," Boxman said. "I don't have statistics, but this is an epidemic." 

Chairman of the Task Force, Frank Greenagel Jr., did have the statistics, stating that New Jersey has seen a 79 percent increase between 2009 and 2011 in admissions to treatment centers for opiate abuse amongst those under the age of 25.

"We are losing our future leaders," Boxman said.

Editor's note: This is the third of a five-part series about a hearing held at Daytop Prep School in Mendham by the Governor's Council on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse Task Force on Heroin and Other Opiate Use Amongst New Jersey's Youth and Young Adults.

Part I: Ex-Heroin Addict Tells Task Force: I Was Killing Myself

Part II: Stigma Added Hurdle for Parents of Addicted Kids

Related Topics: GCDA, Heroin, Task Force, and abby boxman

Monk

7:40 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

If addicted young people are going to be made out to be victims of some sort or another, can we at least admit that it's because liberal society leaves them ill-equipped to make rational decisions?

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FourScore

1:49 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Is that what happened with Rush Limbaugh and his Oxycotin addition???

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August West

2:03 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Liberal society? These are powerful narcotics, sometimes legally prescribed, that leave them ill-equiped to make rational decisions. What is your excuse for making irrational posts?

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Leonard

1:28 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

Liberal society? The prescription drugs which are usually first prescribed legally by physicians leaves them ill equipped to make rational decisions.

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Monk

4:25 pm on Monday, July 23, 2012

Leonard, I believe the implication was that the young drug abusers swipe prescription drugs from the family medicine cabinet or acquire them in some other illicit way ... to get a buzz.
P.S. How do you explain that your reaction time to my post was ten days?

What a waste

8:44 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

I am a parent, do cannot possibly understand the loss of your child. However, I have had a number of friends with addiction problems including three who died. Every one to the letter had parent/parents who pretended there was no problem, or pretended it was some one else's fault. The children had no accountability of any kind and were generally handed the money they need for their drugs ( this is from their teenage years all the way until their mid thirties when the last one died from cocoaine). You want to stop this problem? Make your child stand on their own two feet before they develop a drug problem- coddled babies with no responsibility fail at life.

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ddougyy

9:36 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Coddled babies with no responsibility often do fail at life, but I wouldn't say because of drugs. More because they don't know how to live and take care of themselves. I'd say someone with parents who completely ignored them (being the opposite of coddled and protected) are more likely to turn to drugs. Parents have to find the happy medium.

Curt Carnes

9:16 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

With All Due Respect to Ms. Boxman, and I’m not saying in any way, shape or form, what happened was cased or preventable by her. I do, in fact, commend her for the effort she is making to show how devastating drugs can be. That said, she is fighting an uphill battle of epic proportions, and frankly until we start to get back to the morals found in our Judeo-Christian heritage, things will only get worse.

To Tom’s point, there is not a liberal in the world who will admit their “Whatever Floats Your Boat,” life's philosophy is the root cause for problems like this. Nope, when the results of the “Whatever Floats Your Boat, “or "Party Today, Don’t Worry About Tomorrow," lifestyle comes around and predictably bites someone, the very first things the liberals do is look to blame anything else, outside of their own ungoverned lifestyle.

Frankly we can see the rotting thread of that way of life by simply looking around at how many people think it is more important to party, than buy health insurance, and then when they get sick expect the doctors, nurses, and hospitals to heal them for free, so they can go party again!

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colleen Bondy

10:14 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Wow, I was not aware of any statistics showing drug related deaths higher in liberal households. Nor any showing lower statistics in judeo-christian households. Would love to see them.
All three of the above comments have nothing to do with the article. It is becoming tiresome to see people use any discussion, even the loss of a mother's son to start divisive, religious right blather.
There is an epidemic in this country of presrciption drug overuse and abuse. Americans take pills for everything and then wonder why kids in this country are abusing them. The drug companies have one of the largest PACs in the country and need to be reigned in. A good start would be to ban commercials for prescription drugs.

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Mark

6:23 am on Monday, July 16, 2012

"Nearly everyone I speak to said the same thing. They start with prescription drugs and move on to heroin," Boxman said. "I don't have statistics, but this is an epidemic."

Apparently neither is the Ms. Boxman. I woiuld like to see these as well. I disagree abouth the discussion bringing out the "religious blather". Maybe what is wrong with the youth today is that they have no religious belief or upbringing. Sorry if I'm "Blathering" but these forums are for our opinions

LVMom

10:38 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

um.. you do know Kattie Perry comes from a conservative christian household right? and lady gaga's mom is very conservative...
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being liberal is NOT the same as 'anything goes' ... it is being OPEN to ideas, understanding them then making INFORMED decisions.
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We are 'liberals' but my daughter strongly feels drinking is bad (and I mean ALL drinking) since most people are willing to have 2 drinks and drive, she feels people need to be happy with who they are stone cold sober or change.
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yes, drug addiction is a illness (physical for some mental for others), and it's hard to stop... only way to stop a user is for the USER to want to stop. If you bail them out, they continue using...it SUCKS...but the best way to prevent drug mental additions is to insure you get help for your kid the SECOND you think something is wrong..don't say "oh, no what will the neighbors think if my kid is in therapy" just do it... for physical addiction, it's probably in the family, so educate your child and make sure they never start... SOUNDS EASY IT'S NOT! ... but it's not "society's" fault.
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that said we need to NOT support media that makes it OKAY to drink excessively, do drugs, and be out of control. We need to NOT get drunk/high as adults, that is substance abuse. We need to KNOW what our kids are doing, we are not their friend we are their PARENT.
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okay let the hate begin ....

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cv

12:39 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

@LVMom I dont hate you , I agree with you. My sister is a junkie she is now in jail waiting for a court date , No one bailed her out it is now time to pay the piper. I have watched her torture my parents for 20 years. SHE DOSENT WANT TO STOP HER HUSBAND LEFT HER AND SHE IS STILL GOING STRONG.

TCG

10:43 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

This has nothing at all to do with bad parents, Judeo-Christian morals or, god-forbid a parent's political leanings. As sad as is this story is, it cries out for perspective. While tragic, this story is the exception and not the rule - that's why it's news. But consider that it was legal, prescribed drugs which are relentlessly pushed by big pharma and all the doctors they have in their pockets which led to this child's addiction. It was not marijuana or cocaine or even booze. Yet we continue to elect politicians who take massive contributions from the very companies that push this poison, while they refuse to even consider legalizing street drugs. Long ago politicians decided it was no longer appropriate to advertise hard liquor on television. Same with cigarettes. Yet it's virtually impossible to watch tv for more than 30 minutes without seeing a commercial for prescription drugs. So how anyone can be shocked that kids are dipping into their parents' medicine cabinets the way they used to dip into the liquor cabinet is beyond me. As for the pathetic argument that is because of "liberal" views on life, how does that square with conservative dogma which calls for little or no regulation, and unfettered freedom to do whatever we want without interference from the government? Perhaps if there was more willingness to regulate openly nefarious drug companies and the television networks that run their ads, kids would not be stealing the pills their parents can't face life without

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Curt Carnes

12:00 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

“As for the pathetic argument that is because of "liberal" views on life, how does that square with conservative dogma which calls for little or no regulation, and unfettered freedom to do whatever we want without interference from the government?”

That answer is simple. We conservatives think “We the People” have the necessary brain power to regulate and control ourselves. You can Google this is you want, but today there are more rules, laws, ordinances, in the US of A (the land of the "free") than is possible to humanly count. Estimates range in the million if not billions. But so sadly Ms. Boxam son is dead, and so are thousands of other sons, daughters, mothers and fathers.

Why? Because they Broke those laws!

You see, laws change NOTHING, because charter is what one does when no one is watching!

Monk

11:26 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Colleen, why is it so difficult to lay the responsibility where it belongs ... with the individual? Expecting some corporate entity, whether it be the government or a private company, to take care of or protect oneself is exactly the kind of moral immaturity that makes this "epidemic" possible.

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Curt Carnes

11:36 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Too many people have put God in a Tupperware container, and stowed Him away in their pantry. They are not brave enough to throw Him out completely, because, you know, OMG, what if you really do need Him? But in the meantime they’d rather not have Him watching over their life, so they’ll store Him away in the panty, and run there if there is trouble.

BTW, I am not a religious fanatic. Believe me, I will be the very first to agree modern day religion has made huge mistakes, some of which may be their very undoing, but at the end of the day we really have to remember that church down the street in not God. Only God is God!

Joshua 24:15
But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.”

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TCG

11:41 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

Tom, in your prior post you write, "liberal society leaves them ill-equipped to make rational decisions?" How is that placing "responsibility where it belongs - with the individual?" You seem to be saying it's the fault of a "liberal society" and NOT the individual? And can you cite a single example of a "liberal society" leaving children "ill-equipped to make rational decisions?" How does that account for the great majority of kids who are raised in the very same society, yet each and every day make the rational decision to NOT take drugs - legal or prescribed or otherwise? In other words, what the hell are you talking about?

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Jerry Gordon

5:52 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Here's an eduction for you TGC, liberals encourage the use of marijuana because they see it as another potential revenue stream to the government to fund their entitlement programs. It has been proven that marijuana is a gateway drug.

Moreover, the US Government unofficially encourages the trafficking of drugs through it's open borders policy for illegal aliens and turns a blind eye to the millions of kilos of drugs that come into this country.

Heroin comes form Afghanistan through South American countries, mostly Mexico, which is a very corrupt nation. A list of illegal drugs include: heroin, marijuana, hashish cocaine, crack cocaine, meth amphetamines ( speed ) ecstasy, LSD, peyote, and other hallucinogenics in the form of mushrooms.

Why does our Federal Government continue allow these drugs in the country?
Liberals are mostly to blame for the drugs available on the streets because they want an open border society in order to keep a faction of poor and minority peoples dependent on them for entitlements. They're even encouraged to vote with no ID. The fallout from these polices are drug addiction and overdoses resulting in premature deaths.

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Stacie Bohr

1:33 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

"Jerry...I am going to say this as nicely as I can. We obviously don't agree on pretty much anything. And I have to say that while I don't agree with your point of view I try to respect it as hard as it may be because you are entitled to it. You are a conservative and a religious man. Please just answer one question without quoting scripture. Why does everything "wrong" in the world have to do with not being a conservative, republican Christian? I want to try to understand, even if I don't agree. I am asking this respectfully and hope I won't be called a "troll" in doing so.

Monk

11:46 am on Friday, July 13, 2012

TCG, why is it that you are apparently willing to allow the government to regulate corporations — which by extension is a regulation of all citizens? It is not the government's place to interfere with an individual's liberty in that manner ... assuming the US Constitution has relevance any longer. Conversely, why are traditional religions attacked for providing moral guidelines to which individuals may or may not voluntarily adhere?

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TCG

12:20 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

That conveniently ignores you condradicting yourself, but here is my answer. I am no fan of government regulation. But some is neccessary because history tells us that without corporations (ie: banks, pharma, insurance etc) will abuse their power, rip off consumers and sell products that are dangerous or harmful to our health. The Constitution provides for both federal and state powers to regulate for just this reason. Are you suggesting no speed limit? No voting age? No regulation of food safety? I'm all for less regulation, but some is clearly needed for without it we would face anarchy. Further, it's interesting that you don't want the government to interfere with an individual's liberty yet you whine about the byproducts of a so-called "liberal society." Tough to have it both ways. As for "traditional religions" they are rightfully attacked because they never ever live up to the morals they preach. See the rampant child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. Instead of adhering to their own teachings on morality, the church spends millions to cover up the sexual abuse of children by priests and proceeds to lie about it. As with Penn State, preaching about morals and character while condoning and protecting pedophelia tends to make the target of attacks.

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Curt Carnes

1:54 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

TSG – Could you please show me just where in the Constitution of the United State, one finds these powers you alluded to? Unless I’ve got it wrong, there are only 18 enumerated powers granted to the central government by the Constitution, and they can be found in Article 1, Section 8. I missed the ones you spoke of? Can you show me were they are?

Did the Government and the FDA “approve” Pine Slime? Did the consumers cause the demise of it?

Our forefathers were very clear in limiting the size and scope of a central government, (which they originally objected to) for very good reasons. Recall, they used to live under a huge central government, some even called it a tyranny, before they broke away. Today, we live in tyranny too!

Remember too, what I said earlier – A Church or for that matter, religion is Not God! Both are manmade entities. Lord knows religion has screwed the works up many times. As to Penn State. That was a serious travesty of Justice, at least in Joe Paterno's case. Frankly it was a witch hunt staged by a progressive/liberal media wishing to bring a good, solid man to his knees! He did NOTHING wrong. He reported it to his supervisors and they took no action. The Press should have gone after them, but golly geee, what kind of headline selling story would that have been, and we know too, the press never misses a chance to smite a man with a Bible in his hand!

TCG

2:25 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

1. Per Article 1, Section 8: "The Congress shall have power to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." Freely translated, that is the power to regulate at will which is what congress does each and every time they pass a law. Laws are nothing but limitations on liberty. Thus we are free to drive, but not 100 mph. We are free to consume alcohol, but not to excess when driving - both "freedoms" being heavily regulated. Do I need to explain the power of congress to limit free speech as they have done on many occassions (see yelling fire in a crowded movie house.) Where did congress get the power to establish the FDA if not from constitution?
2 - We live in tyranny? Can you provide a legitimate example? What freedom would you care to excercise that has been crushed by tyranny?
3 - If you think Joe Paterno did nothing wrong, I urge you to read both the transcripts from the Sandusky trial and/or the Freeh report. Paterno knew about Sandusky in 1998 and did nothing. Even after Sandusky left, Paterno allowed him unlimited access to the very facility where Paterno knew the rape was taking place. Of course Paterno was Catholilc which explains why he'd have no objection to Sandusky raping young boys.

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Curt Carnes

10:34 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Oh NO – Not the good and plenty rebuttal!

Contentions that the recently passed Obamacare law might be unconstitutional were met with disdain by House Judiciary Committee Chairman, Representative John Conyers (D-Mich).

According to Conyers, “the government is empowered to do anything it deems necessary or useful under the ‘good and plenty’ clause. The Founding Fathers were wise enough to realize they couldn’t foresee the kinds of powers that would be needed in the future. So, they created language in that pretty much says we can do whatever we want if we think it’s for the benefit of the people. Forcing people to buy health insurance surely falls within this broad grant of authority.”

The above is NOT parity. It is indeed an actual real life statement from House Judiciary Committee Chairman, Representative John Conyers! Kind of Blows Your Mind, or at least it should!

But in all seriousness the so called, "Necessary and Proper Clause" to which you refer was not intended to take away already granted liberties, or supersede the Bill of Rights, which includes the 4th amendment.

Are you actually comfortable putting your very life in the hands of the government? A government run by people who have no clue what actually is contained in the constitution, as seen above. Or people like this absolutely ignorant Representative below?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

An elected official is just someone who won a popularity contest!

Stacie Bohr

3:34 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Mrs. Boxman is a woman who tragically lost her son and is using her voice for prevention of it happening to others. Is she Jewish, Catholic or agnostic? I don't know. Is she a republican or democrat? I don't know. One thing I do know is that she is a mother trying to prevent a loss that holds no socio-economic boundaries. I would love to see the study showing the statistics that liberal agnostics are at greater risk of drug abuse. That is a crock. And you know what, she could be June Cleaver whose son fell victim to this insidious disease for reasons we do not know. Everything doesn't warrant a finger pointing festival. God Bless your son, Mrs. Boxman.

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patty

3:59 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Good for you Stacie! I can't believe how sick and out of hand some of these posts have gotten on the Patch these days. Does anyone even remember what this is all about? A woman lost her child, and has the guts to talk about her loss, and is being criticized? For what? And what the hell does this all have to do with Joe Paterno? Save that for another post, for Gods sake, and leave this poor woman alone.

Longtimeresident

3:49 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Speaking from the side of an addict, some of these comments blow me away. I'm clean and sober 4 years as of ten days ago, and it wasn't society that made me do pills, it wasn't anyone's fault but mine and the drugs. I was prescribed Percocet for an injury. when the recommended does wasn't enough, I took more and so on. Eventually, I was buying Oxycontin and Roxicodone, Morphine, Methadone, anything I could find to feed my body's need so as not to get "dope sick".

Getting and staying clean is the hardest thing I've ever had to do. As I have, my heart goes out to anyone who has lost someone to this disease. These pills are a horror. something has to be done to cut down on them. More needs to be done for certain.

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cv

4:08 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

@Longtimeresident I congratulate you on your sobriety . I hope you have a good support system and I am ROOTING FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Stacie Bohr

4:09 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Bravo to you for that accomplishment Longtime!! You are an inspiration for people who are struggling that there is ALWAYS hope. Even when hanging on by a thread!

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Longtimeresident

6:37 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Thank you both. It really is tough. I do have a great support system, and the biggest factor in begining to get better was realizing I needed help. That's one of the biggest things that keeps people high. They Don't want the help because they can't bring themselves to admit they have a problem, or worse, they truly don't think they have a problem. All the support in the world won't help someone who doesn't want or doesn't think they need it.

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Selene

12:27 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

Bravo to you, keep the faith....

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Russ Crespolini

2:07 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

Congratulations. I admire your courage to post about it. Thank you for sharing.

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Selene

12:31 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

I hate the self righteousness of AA and NA do you have a suggestion?

cv

4:03 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

@Stacie why are you the only one who gets the point? My parents did nothing to cause my sister to be who she is IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE AT ANY TIME. This woman is broken by her loss and I can only imagine that every day she wonders what else SHE COULD HAVE DONE TO SAVE HIM.
Drug abuse affects democrats, republicans ,blacks, whites, hispanic rich and poor.
OPIATES ARE AN EPIDEMIC . who started it ddosent matter WE ALL NEED TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER TO STOP IT.

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Stacie Bohr

4:11 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

I agree CV. I'm sorry for what your sister is going through. As you and I have said before...we have a lot in common!

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Monk

5:16 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

cv, it's true that we need to support one another to stop ... or at least minimize ... self-destructive behavior. But it should be a voluntary, community effort, not a coercive, government-controlled effort. That is all.

Louis Herkalo

9:34 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT TO TCG! WHAT IS YOUR FAITH? WHY MAKE AN IDIOTIC STATEMENT ABOUT JOE PATERNO NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT SANDUSKY DID, BEING ROMAN CATHOLIC & RAPING BOYS? FOR ARGUES SAKE, LET'S SAY SANDUSKY WAS JEWISH & YOU'RE A JEW. WOULD YOU HAVE MADE THAT SAME COMMENT INSERTING HEBREW OR JEWISH IN THAT SENTENCE? MANY ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED FOR MOLESTING CHILDREN(BOTH GENDER), BUT BOYS A LOT MORE. AS WITH NOTRE DAME THE CATHOLIC CHURCH COVERED UP THESE DESPICABLE ACTS DONE TO THESE BOYS & YOUNG MEN. SO GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT TMG. ALL PEDOPHILES MALE & FEMALE(YES, FEMALES MOLEST TOO!) ARE SICK. AT LEAST 98% OF PEDOPHILES WERE MOLESTED WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER. IT'S A CYCLE THAT CONTINUES UNTIL AN OFFENDER STOPS & ASKS FOR HELP, TAKES ONES OWN LIFE, OR GETS CAUGHT & PUT IN JAIL. BUT DO NOT DRAG THE ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIGION INTO THE SANDUSKY/PATERNO SCANDAL, UNLESS YOU SPEAK POORLY ABOUT THEIR PASTORS, RABBIS, ETC. BECAUSE THERE IS ONE BAD APPLE IN EVERY BUNCH!

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Russ Crespolini

10:41 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012

Folks,

Love the conversation. Gentle reminder: keep it civil please.

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Stacie Bohr

8:46 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

Oh be quiet, Russ! Just kidding! :-)))

Selene

12:23 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

Addiction has nothing to do with liberal or conservative.....a child with an addiction problem can kick his or her problem or fall to the drug.....and possibly die. Addiction is an illness, few survive.

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Jefferson Mom

10:04 am on Monday, July 16, 2012

Selene:
BILY (Because I Love You ) is a parent self help support group that meets in Jefferson every Monday night at the Jefferson BOE community room from 7P-830P. Parents with similiar problems, including but not limited to substance abuse, meet to offer support to each other and to help their children make better choices. See www.bily.org for more information.

Louis Herkalo

3:33 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

I WOULD LIKE TO COMMMENT ON SELENE'S RESPONSE. I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THE LAST TWO WORDS SHE WROTE "FEW SURVIVE"! SHE WAS 100 % CORRECT WHEN SHE SAID ADDICTION IS AN ILLNESS AS IS ALCOHOLISM! IT TOOK MANY YEARS FOR THE AMA TO FINALLY ADMIT THAT ALCHOLISIM IS A DISEASE. TILL THIS DAY PEOPLE WILL SEE AN ALCOHOLIC OR AN ADDICT AN SAY "HE/SHE IS JUST WEAK" OR NOT MY SON/DAUGHTER". A "NORMAL" PERSON(IF THERE IS SUCH A PERSON) WILL AFTER A FEW DRINKS WILL SAY NO TO ANOTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE STARTING TO FEEL THE EFFECTS. A PERSON WHO HAS TRGGERED THAT GRAY AREA IN THE BRAIN WILL CONTINUE TO DRINK UNTIL THEY GET VIOLENTLY SICK OR PASS OUT. THERE IS MANY TYPES OF DRINKERS; HAPPY, SAD, VIOLENT, BLACKOUT & PASSOUT! IT'S THE SAME WITH A DRUG ADDICT. PEOPLE USE PRESRIPTION DRUGS & ILLICIT DRUGS TO EXPERIMENT, "HAVE A GOOD TIME", HEIGHTEN SEXUAL PLEASURE, TO ESCAPE A PROBLEM, WHATEVER. AGAIN, THE "NORMAL" PERSON WILL NOT LIKE THE EFFECTS, BECOME ILL, ETC. & STOP. THE DRUG ADDDICT WILL USE HERION FOR THE 1ST TIME, ENJOY THE HIGH AND AGAIN TRIGGER SOMETHING IN THE BRAIN THAT CONTINUES THAT PERSON TO CONTINUE(GOING AFTER THE 1ST HIGH HE/SHE EXPERIENCED/CHASING THE DRAGON). THEN IT'S A SPIRAL RIDE DOWNWARD FILLED WITH THE LOSS OF FAMILIES, JOBS, RESORT TO STEALING, PROSTITUTION(MALE & FEMALE) TO SUPORT THEIR HABITS. YES, UNLESS THEY DO NOT GET SOME FORM OF TREATMENT SELENE THEY WILL EVENTUALLY THEY WLL DIE FROM THE DRUGS, BY SICKNESS(AIDS, HEP C)

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LVMom

8:49 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

first ... i have not, nor have i ever wanted to, smoked pot... yup under 50 and never tried it... HOWEVER...it IS less harmful then cigaretts AND less abused then LIQUOR... should it be legal
.. depends do we think americans can CONTROL their drinking enough not to KILL people while under the influence of LIQUOR?
do we think americans are SMART enough not to KILL a child by giving them cancer from second hand smoke?
do we care about those things?
IF liquor and cigaretts are LEGAL then pot should be to OR outlaw ALL of them!
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as for prescription meds... my mom is CONSTANTLY on and off pain meds for a REALLY bad back... she watches it, she monitors it, WE monitor it... she would rather be in pain then an addict... it is up to the person taking the meds to notice that they WANT the meds... that they REACT to the meds...

cv

9:12 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

@LVMom CIGARETTE SMOKING IS THE WORST. I am proud to say I am no longer a slave to nicotine.

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LVMom

12:59 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

@CV... CONGRATS... i have REALLY bad allergic reactions to cigarette smoke, yet the only thing that make my mom quit (even though i would go into such a bad asthma attack i'd almost turn blue) was the birth of my daughter. she KNEW if she wanted to hold the baby she had to be smoke free (as in no residual smell)... it's is SO addictive.

Stacie Bohr

11:02 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

As far as pot, and this probably won't be a popular thing to say...I'm all for medicinal marijuana. I don't understand why it's even a question. That is not my liberal thought process, it's simply true. people doctor shop constantly for pain meds which thy are not using for pain. People drink excessively and not because it goes wih their lovely fish dinner. Pharma companies are big business and it is unfortunately at our expense. But the point is...consider marijuana as a CDS and have it regulated and controlled just like any other drug as long as it serves a therapeutic purpose. But we all know, if people want it, they will get it no matter what regulations are enforced and if they simply want to get high.

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Drugs are bad nkay

11:31 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

Louis - turn off the caps lock - everyone gets your point - its annoying

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cv

11:44 am on Saturday, July 14, 2012

Just a quick addiction story folks. My dad had a bad back problem 5 years ago. He never drank smoked or used narcotics ever. His doctor gave him oxycontin, well about 2 months later when he didnt have anymore he was threatning to kill us all . These are powerful drugs that can take any one of us over and destroy our lives. Thankfully my dad is ok but it can happen to anyone.

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Stacie Bohr

10:47 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012

Yet another commonality, cv. I have a friend who has been FDNY for close to 30 years. She is a very well respected captain who was unfortunately injured fighting a fire about 7 years ago. Well, then the opiates came in and so did her addiction. I have tremendous respect for her for not only how she serves the great state of NY but that she was also proactive in getting the help she needed. This is a very legitimate disease that can fall upon anyone. Not just kids looking for a high.

TakingAStand

4:28 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012

Kudos to Longtimeresident! You have chosen to be a victor and not a victim! I commend you in your recovery and wish you continued strength.
Those seeking help, NA does work and can be a great support system which is ongoing. Keep going back! Remember it's people, places and things.

Substance abuse of any form knows no race, religious or political boundaries … it doesn't care who you are, where your from or how you were raised. Any opiate based drug has the potential on turning anyone into an addict if not monitored and/or used properly. Most often the “gateway” starts with pot or alcohol and leads one on a mission to find a better high, be popular, experiment or just satisfy their own curiosity ending in addiction. My heart goes out to the Mom that lost her son and I commend her for speaking out about it. Too many times people hide from addiction and remain in denial while they are victims of it as is the addict. Unfortunately the addict must realize they have a problem and seek help... but that doesn't mean that family and friends sit and wait for that to happen. Fight it... don't enable it! The use of the “demon drug” heroin continues to grow and is wide spread across our town and the country, it is an epidemic. For those of you with juveniles, lock up the liquor and medication, monitor their activity, know their friends and their parents and ask questions about everything. Those with older children or family... don't enable them use tough love!

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cv

11:26 am on Sunday, July 15, 2012

@Stacie I cannot tell you how many times doctors have tried to give me percocet, oxy and all the other crap. I learned to take 12 motrin a day for pain I had after a surgery and I was fine. I also cannot tell you how many times people have asked me if I had prescriptions so they could buy them from me.

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Stacie Bohr

3:04 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

Those are people you stay away from, cv. They don't give a rats behind about you. They want to get high! I'm sure you know that.

LVMom

1:01 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

oxy, and Percocet is what they give my mom she REFUSES to take more then one day of meds per 1.5 weeks...she marks a calendar and everything...because at one point she took for TWO weeks and realized she was getting the shakes when it was time to take more... stopped cold turkey (not pleasant after just 2 weeks according to her) ... and is SOOOOO careful now.

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cv

2:02 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

LVMOm it is so physically addicting that crap. so is xanax.

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Stacie Bohr

3:01 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

I have no clinical background whatsoever but I've heard Xanax is worse. Again, I am no authority, but my understanding is people try to come off of the opiates and use the Xanax or whatever similar drug to offset the "shakes" and then that becomes their new "friend". The scary thing is is people who try to detox on their own can die. And here is where the healthcare issue comes back in to play.

LVMom

2:53 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

think i'll stick to a glass of wine after a particularly hard day of homeschooling

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Stacie Bohr

3:05 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

Hi, LVmom....how do you like home schooling?

Concerned

6:04 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012

Addiction is a human tragedy and not a political debate. It impacts all cultures and people who are wealthy and poor. Addictions are often people who are self medicating an emotional pain or depression. Our mental health is geared to getting someone clean and then discharging them without treating the underlying issue. This can take significant time, especially with a teen, of residential treatment. This is not covered by insurance so not everyone can afford this level of treatment. That said never give up hope and look for grants and funding to save your loved one. It is complex and never think it is caused by simplistic reasons.

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cv

10:01 am on Monday, July 16, 2012

@Stacie xanax is an anti anxiety drug. I imagine it would help with opiate withdrawals but it is addicting all by itself. My sister pops xanax , cymbalta , vicodin smokes crack and drinks. I will tell you if she has no xanax watch out!!!

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RxMama

8:47 pm on Monday, July 16, 2012

I am a pharmacist in a small pharmacy a few towns over from Westfield. I have seen people of all ages and backgrounds "doctor shop" for prescriptions and even go so far as to forge prescriptions for oxycodone. In my little pharmacy we have teenagers, moms, dads and even grandparents hooked on oxycodone. It is so sad and these people need help. So many of them started taking Vicodin for a legitimate pain issue and then just ramped right up to Oxycontin or oxycodone. They might not have even realized that they would be starting down a slippery slope. I have told my entire family...forget the opiates...just take Tylenol!

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